Totally understand Ian , I have had bands including major signed acts that I will not name, wanting me to film gigs or produce promo DVDs for them without pay. As they seem to think that having them on my portfolio is somehow helping me out and I should be honoured that they are letting me film them. Basically told them where to go. At the start I filmed a few acts for free to test out my new equipment, but that was only at the very start. Too many folk around trying to use people in this business. Stick to your guns join a union or whatever and stick to their recommended rate card. Andy